I’ve been away from the tubes
Posted by jimJul 21
I took two weeks off from work to build a shed for my equipment. I bought posts 14′, 13′ and 12′ tall that I planned to put 3′ deep. Three posts in each row makes nine holes. Once I had the area cleared and the posts painted, I started to dig the holes. I got the first two done one afternoon and I was amazed how hard the ground was.
Using a post hole digger is, or should be, part of every child’s education. (I say every child, but practically that means every male child. Girls aren’t as stupid as boys and know better than to do manual labor.) I say this for several reasons. First, most of us are descended from some form of immigrant who probably came here poor and had to work at manual labor to survive. Digging post holes we channel out inner ancestors. My inner Irish immigrant Kane ancestor merged with my psyche somewhere during the second hole. The other reason that all boys should be taught how to use this device is so they will know how painful it is to make your living through hard physical manual labor. If digging a 3′ deep hole doesn’t scare them right back into school, nothing will.
Engineers tell you posts should be deep enough so that somewhere between 20%-33% of the height above the ground is buried (more is better, of course), so that means a post that sticks up 12′ should have up to four feet in the ground. Engineers are highly specialized at what they do and rarely know anything other than their specialty. These two traits make engineers the virtual equivalent of sadists wearing horse blinders. They don’t actually dig holes themselves, they just tell the unsuspecting of us how to do things they don’t have to do in the air-condigtioned engineering offices. After digging two of those damn holes 3′ deep (I am firmly convinced now that not even Jimmy Hoffa is buried 3′ deep) I revised the phrase “deep enough” down by 6 inches.
I decided next that powered equipment was the key. Since no one I knew had an borer for a tractor, I rented a gas-powered borer. Obviously invented by engineers from where the ground is soft and buttery in nature (or like that dirt Billy Mays churns up in the TV commercial with a cordless drill), it sucked here. At the end of the four hours I had seven wonderfully round depressions in the ground, varying from four inches to six inches deep. If sweating makes you lose weight, during the process I lost somewhere in the neighborhood of three or four hundred pounds and exercised muscles that never existed before, apparently.
I decided to let Mother Nature do all the work and filled my little depressions in with water and called it a day. The water, applied repeatedly, eventually worked when viciously attacked with the post hole digger, manual version.
4 comments
Comment by democommie on July 22, 2008 at 6:36 am
Jim:
The house I’m currently renovating had no posts under the beams in the cellar (all of which had settled to varying degrees of camber.
I set out to dig six to seven holes for footings. The floor was a thin veneer of conretesorta over a mix of clay, gravel and rocks, ranging in size from golf ball to big ass watermelon. The holes needed to be 2′ square by about 24-30″ deep in order to provide support for the columns I was setting.
I dug the first hole in about EIGHT hours, mostly with a small hand pickaxe and a frikkin’ coffee can. I then retired to dine and rest. When I returned an hour later the excavation was filled, within three inches of the top, with water. Needless to say this development has alterred my original plan. I will now have 3 deep footings and 3 or 4, 2′x2′x2′ high concrete piers in my cellar. It has less than 6′ of headroom anyway, so it’s not like I was going to make it into anything like usable space.
Oh, I did find out one thing while digging. Y’know how they lay up stone foundations? They knock the edges of the rock into something that looks okay and then put it into the wall. All the stuff that’s knocked off? It goes into the cellar hole and is covered with some dirt and then a thin layer of concretesorta.
Comment by Mack on July 22, 2008 at 9:22 am
Sigh…so much to say. First of all…welcome to the Ridge. You are not having trouble because the ground is hard, you are hitting rock. In fact, you now live on a rock.
Second, I have a tractor and a borer. I also have an auger that I use to set posts.
Third, when did people decide it was unwise to ask for help? Two or three or four of us could have had that shed built in two days.
Comment by jim on July 22, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I thought you were still away on vacation, Mack, but I will remember this fact. I actually know two other people, three now, with borers, but theirs are dull and toothless.
It seemed to be just clay, packed quite well, but water did soften it up, if you stretch “soften” a lot.
Making holes was the only really hard work, now it’s just screwing the roofing down, although with help it might be more square and I might not have set the third row too far out.
I had to swap some 8′ roofing for 10′ ones.
Democommie, that much headroom sounds like a mansion compared to our last house, we had slightly less than a yard. The water in the footings does sound familiar, though.
Comment by democommie on July 23, 2008 at 7:08 am
Jim:
Oh,yeah, I know all about no headroom. This is almost worse–so, near and yet so, fuck! low bridge!! I’m trying to put stairs in to replace the ones that were about 50 or 55 degrees of pitch, out of level and plumb and square and rotting from the bottom up. Problem is they built a coal scuttle right where the stairs need to go. So, I’m taking part of that wall down, stone, 20 inches thick.
So, Mack, what’s your service radius? I’m about 850 miles, give or take from where you are, are your vacation plans set? Will your tractor fit inside the camper?